They said she had to do it to stay in the race, and Hillary Clinton, after winning Ohio, Texas, and Rhode Island last night, did it. So she's staying in. And Democrats should prepare for this battle to go all the way to the convention, which is an extremely tiring prospect for me. You? I didn't even stay up to watch the returns last night — a definite sign that my enthusiasm for the constant grind of the election is waning. Plus, now that Mike Huckabee has finally dropped out of the race and John McCain is basically the nominee, he will begin campaigning for president, while Hill and Barry are still grappling for the nomination. Not a good look, analysts say.
Barack Obama, who is still in the delegate lead, won Vermont last night, 60 percent to 38 percent, while Clinton won Ohio 54 to 44, Rhode Island 58 to 40, and Texas 51 to 47. The Texas caucus votes, which account for 35 percent of the state's delegates, have not been fully counted, but so far Obama has 52 percent and Clinton has 48 percent.
According to the exit polls it was the women in Ohio and Texas that pushed Clinton over the edge in contests that had become far less of a sure thing for her as the yesterday's vote approached.
This election is wearing on me too Lauren. I can't believe the Repubs have their nominee already!!! I have this forboding feeling that we will end up with another Republican in the WH!?!?
My new attitude is that if Hillary doesn't clean up her act, i.e. quit parsing words when asked if Obama is a Muslim or having her campaign release pictures of him in Kenyan garb, I'm going to effect my own new strategy. If she steals this nomination, I will stay home.
I have voted in every presidential election since I was 17, but if she continues to campaign like a Republican, I will sit on my butt and not vote. I will encourage my friends not to vote. I will nag my family not to vote. And then we'll see how the Democratic party likes me.
And, yes, I get it that with that strategy, McCain might get elected, but I'm tired seeing her disrespect Obama and by extention, me. If this is how she treats him, then what can I as am African American woman expect from her if she's elected?
To borrow a phrase from Oran Juice Jones, the Democratic party without black women is like corn flake without the milk.
I am happy for her. She is who I am voting for definitely. Not all blacks like Obama and I am one of them. Noone will miss ur vote, the hispanics determine who will be president. Deuces!!!
I wouldn't be real sure that the Democratic Party won't miss black women. Don't assume I'm alone.
illary’s "Win"
Category: News and Politics
Is a "win" derived through manipulation of ignorance and fear really a win? Or is it a tragic loss for intelligence and reason?
Is four more years of fear mongering really the leadership America needs right now?
If my wife comes to and observes my gig, it does not make her a guitar player, so how does being First Lady give Hillary "Presidential" experience?
Wake up America, avoid candidates that galvanize their support by manipulating your worst fears and anxieties, support candidates that speak the truth, appeal your sense of reason, and offer legitimate hope for real change.
Its 3 AM, your children are asleep, hopefully the courage of your convictions are not..
@ KHIA…you're not alone…I was contemplating that same thing last night myself.
I'm sorry but I must say that if Obama can't stand the heat, he needs to get out of politics.
THIS IS NOTHING compared to the Republican slime machine. Stop babying Obama, nobody in the Clinton camp whines and cries about being treated unfair, when they get slimed (and they do ALL THE TIME) they fight back and fight HARD. If Obama is smart, he will take notes and grow a backbone and not do his fighting via his campaign associates.
Republicans are trembling at both candidates, but the slime machine is more covert Rethug Rove movements vs. Clinton campiagn putting stuff out there. Is it racist/unfair? Sure. But voters/MSM aren't paying attention to that.
They are paying attention to this:
1) Hope/Change/Unity, Bipartisanship Kumbaya does not put food on the table, fill your gas tank, get better working wages, health care for middle/lower income folks. I can tell you without shame that I am one of them and like many of us out there, we need a president that can make ish happen QUICK. I really don't trust Obama can do that because of his voting record, he can't even defend himself or his votes (remember his vote on the 30%+ interest cap was a "mistake") and I'm not ready to hear that his cabinet will be filled with competent people. We already have a president who lets others run the country for him, we don't need another one.
2) Rezko trial started in Chicago this pasdt Monday and will be a MAJOR story in the MSM in the coming weeks. Should Obama be held accountable for his Rezko dealing/association? ABSOLUTELY. There is more to this and the Obama campaign is HURTING today because they thought they'd have the nomination by now. With this win, more press will look at Rezko and hurt his chances as more is uncovered. Obama certainly benefitted from Rezko and vice versa, and it wasn't just the 1M+ house he lives in.
3) This past week, it was discovered that an leading Obama campaign staffer personally wrote Canadaian parliament officals/congresspeople about NAFTA, saying, "Obama didn't really mean what he said about NAFTA, we still cool with you." Should Obama be held accountable for that? ABSOLUTELY. So Obama's campaign trashed Hillary about NAFTA, then wipes their collective azz with Canada? And get BUSTED? The MSM covered Obama's press conference and were shocked that he did not answer the statement and walked off. Looks bad on him & his surrogates.
4) Obama's lackluster 2 year US senatorial career. Should Obama be held accountable for his "present" votes and lack of national and foreign experience a US Senator? ABSOLUTELY. Clinton knows this is where his biggest weakness is and will keep chipping away at it. And it's working.
This "negative" on Obama is not because he's black, visted Kenya and dressed in tradtional clothing. So let's stop the whining people. Obama's got baggage and it's not just carry-on luggage either.
Hilary's campaign is just an ANTI-OBAMA campaign
she keeps arguing that she should be the chief because she has more experience,but she declared that Mc.Cain is experienced to do so, and that Obama just had a speach in 2002.When you examine that comments, she clearly put Mc.Cain on top of Obama, and will prefer Mc.Cain over Obama even though she and Obama belong to the same party."If someone is naturally smart he doesn't need years to prove it" the question all american should ask:
When did she handle crisis? did she make the right choices? where is that experience come from, her husband or what? I believe that if Obama was white, he would knocked out Hilary of the race, as Kennedy did at his time.
blue,
who told you hispanics determine who gets elected? CNN? Do realize that only a total of 20% of Hispanics are registered to vote compared to 58% of African Americans. Turn the TV off.
AppNapptuale,
I have been doing some very unofficial polling and I'm shocked by how many other black women feel the same way. Many of them have already taken the step, which I will follow, and written Hillary's campaign to say "stop the madness."
Jack White from The Root.com wrote the following this morning:
"If, on the other hand, Obama loses, Democrats will face a different and even more incidious threat. His success is based largely on rock-solid support from African Americans and young, well-educated voters of all races who believe that he symbolizes a new era in politics. His campaign is, in some ways, more like a crusade. But precisely because these voters have invested so much emotion in Obama, their support may not be transferable to another candidate.
As Obama himself acknowledged to reporters in February, " I'm confident I will get her voters if I'm the nominee. It's not clear that she would get the voters I got if she were the nominee." Disappointed Obamaniacs could stay home–or even worse cast, misguided protest votes for McCain."
I don't think this feeling is just us. Hillary needs to pull up.
Just sayin.'
He lost Ohio b/c of his NAFTA deception which had nothing to do with Hillary.
He lost Texas b/c the voters there saw Hillary as better on security.
Don't blame Hillary b/c Obama tried to be slick about his stance on NAFTA and then got caught and voters saw that he may not be the golden boy that the press has made him out to be. That, in my opinion, is what really cost him the two big states.
If BO gets all the pledged delegates from here on out he still wouldn't have enough to get the nom and neither does Hillary. This is going straight to the convention!! I think BO supporters need to come to the realization that party is split pretty much down the middle. No one has a moral or intellectual high ground here - especially considering that BO and HRC are damn near identical on issues - so please stop acting like it.
Last night rocked!
I really don't give a shit who wins the primaries. The longer this shit drags on, the more likely the dems are to screw themselves come November. Of course unless Bush attacks Iran and McCain continues with his Bush salad tossing ways, but then I'd rather have a President McCain than a war with Iran.
Also - BO supporters always say things like "the people have spoken!" when BO wins. When HRC wins it's b/c the "the people have been manipulated!"
Ok, dude.
The problem is, with a brokered convention, nobody wins. The longer this goes, the worse it it for the party. The way this is running, it's pretty much a scorched earth outcome. None of us will win.
I love how the delusional Obamanuts try to spin thier messiahs' routing as some kind of Billary conspiracy of nasty tricks against thier poor whittle candidate.
Get real, he lost because the PEOPLE liked her platform better. Hillary is running for president of the united states, not the high school glee club. This is a fight, and she has no obligation to play treat Obama with kid gloves. This is fucking POLITICS, and he is her OPPONENT just as much as McCain is.
I also love the hypocrisy of the obamanuts, who go on and on about their candidates SLIM delegate lead, while downplaying Hillarys' lead in the POPULAR VOTE. When Obama was leading in that category, all they could talk about was the "will of the people", but the rules somehow change when Hillary is in the lead.
As Hillary said "as Ohio goes, so goes the nation"…
Last night was so sweet.
I am with you, khia213. I will never vote for Hillary Clinton. Rush Limbaugh gave her a pretty big bump yesterday, because he urged his supporters to vote for her. Why? Because "she can bloody Obama and make this thing easier for the republicans."
This hasn't gone unnoticed by the Clintons. Bill Clinton was on his show yesterday. I think if you compared the number and breadth of racist comments Limbaugh has made to the anti-semitic ones Farrakhan has made, Limbaugh wins by about 10 million percent.
Wow, anyone who will not vote for Hillary Clinton because their messiah did'nt get the nomination (or becasue Limbaugh gave her a shout out) is a special kind of person indeed.
Obamanuts scare me more everyday.
@khia213- Not voting at all would be like cuting off your nose to spite your face. Either one of them(Hillary or Obama) would be better for the country than McCain. With McCain in the White House you can count on another world war or at the very least a show down with Iran.
Mama's Rice and Beans says—THIS IS NOTHING compared to the Republican slime machine. Stop babying Obama, nobody in the Clinton camp whines and cries about being treated unfair, when they get slimed (and they do ALL THE TIME) they fight back and fight HARD. If Obama is smart, he will take notes and grow a backbone and not do his fighting via his campaign associates
OH REALLY!
Hillary complained about being attacked becasue she is a woman.
I think think this election may come down to chosing the lesser of two evils.
Chic Noir, I hate to disagree with you but she has withstood the worst of the worst of the worst slimeball tactics from the MSM and Republicans and her fellow Democrats for a very long time.
Check out Media Matters re: Tim Russert, Chris Matthews, Glenn Beck and all the vitriolic pundits. They WORSHIP on Obama's altar and trash her, yet she's never said a word about it. WHo have said things have been women who were offended by the blantant sexism. Obama even has crossed the sexist line with his snide remarks earlier in the campiagn "you're likeable enough" was the straw that broke the camel's back.
Obama makes great TV, no doubt. But they can't pick a candidate for us just because he makes a better story.
I've always said this, I'll support him if he's the Democratic nominee, as I am a staunch hardcore Democrat and will support the party nominee. I';d rather have Obama than McCain anyday. But based on his issues, voting record, positioning on healthcare, energy reform and the economy, Obama is more Right Wing Republican than Left-Leaning Democrat. This is why he appeals to so many Independents and Republicans.
Name calling will not endear your opposite number to vote for your candidate. It doesn't help your cause. And it's what damns either candidate to a loss in the fall. The level of hostility is too high. With this level of animosity, either Hillary or Obama voters will cross over to vote for the other cnadidate.
As for McCain, he doesn't offend me. I've voted for him before.
If McCain does'nt "offend" you, then by all means vote for him. Anyone else who votes against their own self interests because their fav candidate did'nt get the nod is fucking batshit crazy, and probably should'nt be allowed to vote for anyone.
Just sayin…
Solitaire,
I assume you are a reasonably intelligent person based on your previous responses on other issues. How does calling me batshit crazy advance your cause? And if you read my post, I didn't say I would vote for him this time, but if Hillary continues to follow her current path, that I won't vote for her. You don't help your candidate with personal attacks. And that's exactly the thing I'm trying to tell you will cause her to lose. We need to take it down about a thousand and back up off each other.
nicely put, khia213.