Atlanta Judge Clears Courtroom To Give Special Talk To Blacks
 

A black judge in Atlanta, who had enough of seeing young blacks come before him, recently ordered everyone but blacks out of his courtroom so he could deliver a private talk about education, responsibility, and the troubling criminal behavior he saw day after day. The judge says he didn't think he was doing anything wrong, but people are angry that he chose to single out just the blacks. Critics say there was nothing about his message that shouldn't have applied to everyone in the courtroom, and singling out one group for a paternalistic tough-love session is discriminatory. What do you think? Should the judge have saved the pep talks for outside of the courtroom or was he within his right as a judge to give a speech to the selected group?

Comments (23)

No. 1 · khia213

He should have known better. I understand not wanting to air dirty laundry in public, but this was not the way to handle it.

This will be used against him if he has to run for that seat.

Posted: Apr 1, 2008 at 3:41 pm
No. 2 · FlashingLights

Yeah, have to agree. Being fair should have taken precedent over not airing dirty laundry, especially when committing crimes & doing dumb shit isn't so much a "black" thing as it is an "everybody" thing.

Besides, if he had thrown out everyone black & left only whites in the room so he could convey an opposite message (think, "great job on keeping your noses clean ALL the time, guys!"), there would be no dispute that THAT would have been discriminatory.

I appreciate the sentiment, to a point anyway, but he was dead wrong for this one.

Posted: Apr 1, 2008 at 3:55 pm
No. 3 · sugarcookie

I see nothing wrong with it. Regardless of if people get their feelings hurt or not, someone needs to specifically address the black community. Granted, other races/ethnicities commit crime. FYI: Black folks do too. We can't sit here and constantly compare ourselves to anyone else. We need to address our problem. Everyone wants to be politically correct. Throw that bs out the window. Certain things need to be said. Thanks Your Honor

Posted: Apr 1, 2008 at 4:05 pm
No. 4 · khia213

As a public official and a lawyer, in the course of his duties, he has an obligation to avoid even the appearance of impropriety. He'll be lucky if all he gets is a reprimand from the state judicial board.

Courts are open forums. You can't exclude people on the basis of race, even if it's well intentioned. I can't even imagine how much we'd be screaming right now if a white judge put black folks out the court cause he wanted a word with the white folk.

Posted: Apr 1, 2008 at 4:12 pm
No. 5 · Chic Noir

People can not seem to make up their minds. When Bill Cosby did it, he was accused of airing dirty laundry. This man tired to do it a bit more privately.

Posted: Apr 1, 2008 at 4:21 pm
No. 6 · maria

I think you've made a grammatical error "An black judge" should read "A black judge".

Posted: Apr 1, 2008 at 4:23 pm
No. 7 · Chic Noir

I believe this man was moved to speech because he is quite embarrassed by all of the Tomfoolery that he sees everyday in his courtroom. If we are to be honest, I think at some point most blk people have been embarrassed and ashamed of the behavior of some of our people

Posted: Apr 1, 2008 at 4:24 pm
No. 8 · sugarcookie

So how about we not mention anything at all and let things be

Posted: Apr 1, 2008 at 4:25 pm
No. 9 · Chic Noir
Posted: Apr 1, 2008 at 4:25 pm
No. 10 · sugarcookie

chic noir…thats hilarious

Posted: Apr 1, 2008 at 4:28 pm
No. 11 · Lauren Williams, Stereohyped

Thanks, Maria!

Posted: Apr 1, 2008 at 4:29 pm
No. 12 · Anon

Maria must be an EBP! LOL!

Posted: Apr 1, 2008 at 4:34 pm
No. 13 · Chic Noir

sugarcookie says:
I see nothing wrong with it. Regardless of if people get their feelings hurt or not, someone needs to specifically address the black community. Granted, other races/ethnicities commit crime. FYI: Black folks do too. We can’t sit here and constantly compare ourselves to anyone else

I agree sugarcookie, and the problem with our dirt is that it takes up most of the broadcast time during the 6 o'clock news.

@khia213 - It actualy depends on the context. If he wanted to talk with yt about racism or crystal meth addiction I would have not problem with that.

Posted: Apr 1, 2008 at 4:36 pm
No. 14 · khia213

I'm only a hearing officer and I can't even speak to a party or a witness without all of them being present. The mere indication that I might have done something that affects the hearing without the other side in the room can get me jackpotted.

If a judge asked me as a lawyer to leave the courtroom for any reason while a defendant was present would set off an alarm so loud that I'd be running to file an appeal as soon as the words left his or her mouth.

As a part of the legal process, it is just wrong.

Posted: Apr 1, 2008 at 4:57 pm
No. 15 · zenzele

To me, it makes the assumption that it's only Black people who are committing crimes, and we *all* should know that's inaccurate information. i think we should be more concerned about the fact that, since police officers are allowed to exercise *discretion;* i.e., they are not always obligated to arrest, then why does it seem as though they let all the white kids go home to their parents, and throw all the black kids in jail? I honestly believe it's to perpetuate the stereotype that it's only Black folks who commit crimes.

Chic Noir: I have never been embarrassed by the actions of other Black people (speak for yourself), just as white people don't ever seemed to be embarrassed by the stupid actions that often go on in their community.

Posted: Apr 1, 2008 at 5:04 pm
No. 16 · JackJohnson

I think as an officer of the court, he acted improperly. He could've picked any forum to address young Black men as a group. Why not volunteer to speak at inner city schools, or get involved with mentoring and education programs? The court is not the proper place to single out groups…speeches are only acceptable in sentencing, or delivering the opinion of the court. This was not the time or the place to address these young men.

Posted: Apr 1, 2008 at 5:32 pm
No. 17 · stopthemadness

I love that link, Chic Noir.

And I am so guilty of doing that. So so guilty.

Posted: Apr 1, 2008 at 7:00 pm
No. 18 · stopthemadness

i blame my mother for my unbearable know-it-all syndrome.

Posted: Apr 1, 2008 at 7:05 pm
No. 19 · Chic Noir

@ stopthemadness- you have no idea how many copies cat whatwhitepeoplelike blogs have come about.

Posted: Apr 1, 2008 at 9:38 pm
No. 20 · Ike

Oh God… what an idiot.

Posted: Apr 2, 2008 at 1:17 am
No. 21 · tallulahbankhead

I don't agree with what he did but I understand.

I'm angrier at the knuckleheads who made him feel the need to segregate the courtroom for the lecture.

Posted: Apr 2, 2008 at 4:22 am
No. 22 · mace

What he did was what anyone who cares about his race would do, while saving the embarrassment of airing dirty laundry in public (like Bill Cosby, Oprah have done).

He is a judge, yes, but he is a Black Man as well. If he had given his speech in front of everyone, although it would have been more politically correct, someone would have complained that he blasted Black folks in a public/legal forum. It's like Obama's campaign: he's either not Black enough or too Black.

Posted: Apr 3, 2008 at 6:14 pm
No. 23 · dahveed dahveed

good for him, glad the brother cared enough to do it. i give the brother 5 black fist

Posted: Apr 7, 2008 at 3:00 am
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