
When a white man is called "an honorary black man" it's usually because that white man embodies some sort of stereotype about black people. This is a subtly offensive thing to say, even if that honorary black man happens to be President of the United States or a gorgeous British soccer player.
So it's pretty moronic that the writer behind a new Beckham bio called Posh & Becks, Andrew Morton, calls David a "black icon" because he likes hip hop and jewelry.
..[T]hanks to his taste in extravagant clothes and jewelry, penchant for rap music and his flash lifestyle, the blond footballer should be considered an honorary black man.
Should he really? I consider him a really rich, not-so-smart athlete with a fetish for hip hop culture. But that's just me.
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I don't know about all that other ish, but I can think of a way to make him an "honorary black man" for sure, and I nominate myself to do the induction.
There was television programme about this a few years ago. Titled something like, 'Why Beckham Is A Black Man?', and there were many discussions and nobody (or at least, very few people) understood why it was offensive.
This kind of stereotyping is the worst because it is supposed to be 'complimentary'. The whole Clinton as first black president thing also irritated me. I don't know why Toni Morrison wrote that article. That was disappointing.
Mistressdiva,
You better be careful. I don't think Posh would approve!
So has Beck joined this group: Pat Riley, Bill Clinton, Bob Barker?
@uogivibzm - Oh no. First B, now the sacred B?? Dude, you really know how to push my buttons.
As long as black people call out our own for being white-washed, and we frequently do..enter Condoleeza Rice..then the other side (or us) can make white ppl honorary blacks. It's slightly different, but in the same vein. So I am not sure how irritated we can be. I could care less about someone being an "honorary black person" b/c personally I think it goes both ways…there are black ppl who are "honorary white people" like with woman I just names above.
Now back to my induction ceremony for Becks…
If any one will cop to watching the Victoria Beckham special,do you remember when she left him in Spain and as she was driven off he was standing there shirtless? Mmmph! The last time I said that while watching television was when Idris Elba took his shirt off on The Wire. Black or white, Beckham is fine!
Its making that arbitrary distinction that bothers me.
Being black = wearing lots of jewelery, driving in flashy cars, liking hip_hop.
Being white = ???
That doesn't seem fair or right.
Cultures are different and we could have a more diffuse discussion concerning race, culture, belonging etc. and how there is a distinct difference between fetishing black images and really understanding 'black cultures'.
It is just that linking the colour of someone's skin to their personality, hmmmmm, doesn't seem right to me?
Oh, and I kind of apologised for the B thing. Kinda
Maybe I've just overdosed on haterade as of late. I didn't say he wasn't cute - not my type - but I do like Beckham.
Ugh. Being white, you ask?? I don't have the energy for that one today, but I see the answer to that along political lines versus the consumer oriented nature of what ppl view as being black. We should link a person's skin color to their personality, but in the case of Condi, she is just a straight up sell out. There are times when your race should be one of the guiding forces in your decisions. This woman travels the world on behalf of a man that would just a s soon see all of her people wiped off the face of the Earth be it through AIDS, hurricanes, violence or poverty.
The sacred "B" is Bill Clinton and he didn't get his "honor" for fetishing black images. Fetishing black women…maybe, but not images. Joke. Seriously though…he understood black culture in a way that a white politician has not since…JFK, RKF. But there are others John E. And, here in CA Jerry Brown was GOV, then Mayor of Oakland and now Attorney General he's acutely aware of black culture on the political side specifically. Some of you may have heard of him b/c he's run for president in the past.
I meant to say we "shouldn't" link a person's…
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Kanye West is rich, likes hip hop and jewelry, but does anyone call him black? Nooooo.
I maybe would've felt the writer if he'd said "due to his taste in extravagant clothes and jewelry, penchant for rap music and his flash lifestyle, the blond footballer should be considered an honorary Kimora Lee Simmons." But as it stands, this man is a racist tool.
I think you could maybe somewhat justify the Clinton one by saying that he did not ignore black people like pretty much every other US president ever, but when comedians talk about it, it's like he's black cuz he's a married man who got sucked off by some kid.
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I'm sorry what…I was too busy staring at David's photo to read the article.
Okay seriously, what a dumb comment to make. So if David like watermelon and chicken then he will offically be black? I don't get what he was so poorly trying to imply.
The fact is that ALL women want him. Black. White. Brown. Asian. And for good reason. I can't look directly at his picture even.
But the fact that I want him doesn't make him black any more than undressing anyone else with my eyes.
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And regardless what the black dominatrix says, being amoral doesn't make Bill Clinton black either. What an insult! And who gives this dominatrix the right to speak for an entire race anyway?