Why don't we make a White Pig stuffed toy version of John McCunt?

Who the hell are they fooling?

Why is it that we're the ones who always have to get over it?

What's next? A revival of Black Sambo? Jack Benny's assistant Rochester was funny too, wasn't he? I know my dad enjoyed the Amos & Andy series…

I guess this is just the beginning

I don't think there's enough facepalm in the WORLD to cover this. WTH?!

This isn't right. Why not make him in his likeness? Why make him a monkey? If you were to do a George W doll, or McCain doll, I guarantee they wouldn't be made as an animal. Horse shyt.

Ohhhhhhhh… white folks. You gotta love em

but he does look like that little monkey…and it is cute…in a racist sorta way.

God help me, but it is a cute sock monkey. Totally racist, but very adorable. The ears are rather perfect. I'm not saying it's not way wrong … it is. This company should issue an apology.

FTR, I do belive that Dubya has been portrayed as a chimp on many occasions.

http://worm.nessus.at/fun/USA/Bush/bush_chimp.jpg

Yeah, and people wonder why Black people think they are racist. This is when the racism comes out, when a Black person gets ahead, the real racism comes out from people who claim they have nothing against Black people.

Just idiotic!

It is no different than the manufacturing of the Hillary Clinton nut cracker. Where was the out rage when people were holding sings at a Clinton rally saying "iron my shirts." Why is it funny to be sexist? It is just as hateful as being racist.

@ max… ummmmm, who in this thread said sexism was okay? I was pissed off at sexism against Hillary too. It doesn't mean we can't address racism against Obama. It's not mutually exclusive.

Somebody needs to send these morons a copy of "Bamboozled." Not that they'd care.

Racism sucks.

Let's hope they make a tap dancing obama next.

So is this any different than the LeBron James Vanity Fair cover? IMO, nope.

Distasteful and subtly (blatently) racist.

For God's sake, please stop with the sexism vs. racism crap. Yes, Hillary Clinton faced sexism, especially from the likes of Chris Matthews.

Obama faced racism in the primary more so from the Clintons and their flying monkeys. Geraldine Ferraro? There has been no Obama surrogate to go after Hillary Clinton based on sexism like Clinton did to Obama. Period. End of story.

As for this monkey thing, brown people, African, Mexican, Asian, and South Asian, have constantly been referred to as monkeys by some white people either in a blatantly racist, derogatory way, or in a subtle, latent racism way.

Our culture anthropomorphizes animals in cartoons. Taking humans and transliterating them to animals results in this kind of thing.

I've heard of people naming their black dogs Whitney and Samuel L. Not that is twisted. Seriously, would those people name a white dog James Dean, Shirley Temple, Brad Pitt, etc.? Not a chance. Blackness is such an alien thing to them that they can't fully understand how offensive that is.

^^ Amen, Brad.

Brad - The clintons were victims of race baiting as was Geraldine Ferraro by the obama camp.

what, it doesn't come with a porch?

Really, people! Obama has long arms and legs and is lurpy as hell…and so are some very white people. He does look like a sock monkey! It has more to do with his body frame than his ethnicity. By the way, evolutionists believe that all humans evolved from apes, not just the black people. And Christians believe that black people started out white and were cursed at the tower of Babel. Now with all that unbelievably stupid shit being accepted by millions, can you really find fault with someone noticing Obama's frame? And they did state that Hillary would have be a squirrel in a brown pant suit…more nut crunching…

Max,

The Clintons and Ferraro victims of race baiting? Sure, like the way uranium is the victim of being called poisonous?

Human, please! The Clintons ran one of the dirtiest campaigns in recent history. Yeah, when all of the Clinton surrogates like former Ambassador Andy the douche bag said that Bill Clinton was more black than Barack Obama because Bill had slept with more black women? That was a two-fer: racist and sexist. Thomas Jefferson would, by that logic, be one of the "blackest" men in history. (Sorry, but Jefferson was a scumbag. He kept his Sally Hemmings and their children slavery until his death. Controlling much? Kind of like that Austrian guy who kept is daughter and their kids in the basement for 24 years.)

Look, if you want to pretend that the Clintons are victims, then please feel free to delude yourself.
But don't expect me to agree with you or accept that garbage.

I defended the Clintons for years as they were attacked by the Right. I can only say that they learned the wrong lessons from their opponents.

Hillary was kind enough to say that only John McCain and she were loyal Americans. Blech!!

And, Max, people did denounce the Hillary Clinton nutcrackers and the "iron my shirt" sign. Have you read any of the writing of younger feminist/womanist who denounced Clinton's tactics as they equally decried the sexism in the media?

Oh, that whole "iron my shirt" sign thing is believed to have been a stunt pulled off by the Clinton campaign. Security at public events with presidential candidates is extremely tight. Attendants are searched.

How easily do you think it would be to get a big sign like that into an event and reach the front stage? Why weren't those men questioned by the Secret Service? Why don't we know their names? They were videotaped and the video placed on YouTube. Shouldn't they have been denounced or questioned by the media the same way that Ms. Christian was?

And "iron my shirt"? Who says something like that in 2008? I don't know about you but as guy, I had to take home economics and learned how to iron, cook, and sew in junior high. That phrase is something from the 1950s. Do you really think that some 20-something guys would actually say that? Ever hear of a dry cleaner? "Iron my shirt"? I'm sorry but 20-something guys are just not going to think of that themselves. It's not part of American culture in 2008.

Finally, how many people in 1992 had ever heard of Sistah Souljah before Bill Clinton cynically denounced and compared her to David Duke at the NAACP annual conference? Do you think that if Bill Clinton wasn't willing to use race to get ahead in 1992 he wouldn't do so in 2008?

The Clintons may not be racist but they are willing to use racism to win just as Ronald Reagan was eager to spit on the memories and families of Cheney, Schwerner, and Goodman when Reagan declared his support for "state's rights" in Philadelphia, MS.

Barb,

What? Do you really believe what you just wrote?

How can you go from evolution to the Tower of Babel and get every thing jumbled up so badly?

First, Humans did not evolve from apes! Humans and apes have a common ancestor. Modern humans evolved in Africa. They then, according to DNA analysis, spread out first to Asia and then Australia. Another wave left to go to Asia and another to Europe. Folks from Asia then spread to the Americas. The differences in so-called races is just cosmetic adaptations based on environmental factors.

Second, ignorant people think that black and brown skin is the Mark of Cain or Mark of Ham for either killing Abel or "abusing" Noah. It's just another white supremacist way of making some jerks feel superior to others.

The Tower of Babel story is about the arrogance of humans trying to build a tower to reach Heaven. God then cursed humanity with multiple languages as punishment.

(You should either read the Bible better or rent some DVDs of Biblical movies.)

And, I can't recall Larry Bird or any other tall white guy said to look like a monkey. This is about skin color and racial stereotypes.

Ohhhhhhh Barb.

Very little shocks me anymore, as I am so numb to the onslaught of racist imagery and the other misc foul imagery online… but this GENUINELY had my jaw on the floor! (sorry for the caps, I don't know the HTLM for bold )

Lauren you're killing me today!! I just don't understand WTF is wrong with people!!

They did this to Bush but I still don't like it.

@the lost girl- to make something bold do this:

around beginning of the word and at the end with a forward slash in front of the second or last b. So, it should look like this he said so but no spaces. "He said so", should post in bold lettering.

sorry

@lost girl I will send you a link to explain it.

Anyway, back to the doll…

Are they kidding? Are white people so divorced from history and reality?

So yeah, if there were no black people, white folks wouldn't have anyone to pick on…damn damn.

"Why don’t we make a White Pig stuffed toy version of John McCunt?"

Because it's petty, reactionary & unproductive, not to mention uncalled for — this one ain't McCain's fault. I will say this… these excuses are getting… interesting. Mark my words, someone will burn a cross on a black family's lawn in a white pointy hood. When caught, this person will then claim that they "were just being ironic and satirizing real racists." Their parents will chime in about how nice a guy he is, laypeople will claim that he's being pilloried by the PC police, and his age/residence outside Alabama/family's recent immigrant origins will be used as fodder to say that "maybe he didn't know, he didn't grow up in that generation and fell asleep during that day in history class." If the family keeps the cross up in their yard 5 minutes after it cools, their city will sue them. Ya'll heard it here first.

@ Chic Noir Let's give this a whirl… thanks!

LMAO I THINK ITS GREAT , I WOULD PAY GOOD FOR ONE ,,
AND MCCAIN CAN BE OLD BILLY GOAT THAT HAS GREY HAIR ON TOP .. LIFE IS JUST SO COOL

HEY DivergentDana U A-HOLE .YOUR RACIST ALL SO .. REREAD YOUR COMMENTS
OH YEAH BY THE WAY WE DONT BURN CROSSES ANY LONGER ,, WE JUST HANG NOOSES IN YOUR TREES ,,,,,DIG IT …….

FROM A NATIVE AMERICAN SLAVE FAMILY

There are tons of websites, shirts, and even an mtv music video that portray George Bush as a monkey. Just do a quick google search and you will see it. Every President is lampooned, so he shouldn't be any different.

——————–> Perez Hilton/Youtube, Vicckers, or did you already make the rounds there? And did you even read the fine quote marks around the comment I'm replying to? Congratulations, you're an incredible missionary for misanthropy.

Robert, is there a well-documented history of whites being referred to as monkeys by other races in America? I mean, Robert, what would you personally consider a racist caricature of a black person, or do you think it's all "in the eyes of the beholder" and such things don't exist unless you choose to percieve them as racist? Furthermore, will you concede that the caricatures of Bush as a monkey were not created by blacks, but primarily if not exclusively by members of his own race?

Ah, I screwed up on the bolding feature… damnit.

cry cry CRY

Where is your outrage at the Hillary Nutcracker? If you didn't complain about that, don't complain about an Obama Monkey Doll.

*points @ self* Feminist here… I was upset about that, the T-shirts, the sexist media coverage, J. Jackson Jr's *crying* statement, Jerry Doyle's "stripper comments", the constant references to her as "Hillary" instead of Sen. Clinton, the criticism of her figure, all of that. Sorry, no inconsistency here. Here's a query for you? Are you equally incensed about both, or do you care about neither? Because according to your own measure, those are the only two non-hypocritical positions to hold, and I've already told you where I stand.

There are many photos and cartoons showing G W Bush as a monkey and that is OK, but showing Obama as this is not? To cry racest over this is just the cry of some who is the looser of the argument.

Lets talk about that new artical of Obamas brother in Kenya saying Obama was raised a Musulim whils showing a photo from 1985 with full musulim garb on. Or why he will not releas his birth cert.

Charls

This is just a ploy by the Obama Campaign to obstruct the first amendment. I do not see the big deal that Obama was made in to a money doll… oooooooo big freaking deal, Bush has been made fun of for a long time, he doesn't care. The poor people in Utah try to have a friendly gesture and have these dolls for support made into something ugly. For those who see this doll as racists are only creating this problem.

Man, I think it's GREAT!!!! it looks just like him.. ears and ALL!!!

So, does anyone know where I can buy one??

I think that there is a difference between lampoons/caricatures and racist depictions! For example, there are caricatures circulating which over-exaggerate Obama's big ears and late-night t.v. lampoons of Clinton's pantsuits…that's acceptable and some are even funny. It is crossing the line and NOT O.K. to show anyone in a demeaning manner (monkey, nutcracker, pig, or otherwise). However, to ignore the well-established historical & racial connotation that exists between African Americans and monkeys and shrugging it off as "well, they did it to Bush…what's the big deal?" shows that some people are just either EXTREMELY out of touch or active and willing participants in the perpetuation of the offensively barbaric stereotypes of black people in society in general. By the way, it amazes me that some people just can't stick with a topic! Most of us already know and agree that sexism is wrong (most people who are sharp enough to recognize racism also recognize sexism), but this forum is not dedicated to that subject…those that want to discuss that should find an appropriate discussion board!

in a perfect world, there would be nothign wrong with portraying a black man as a monkey — and a white man as a pig. But we have to face the fact that our world is full of racism, and damaging stereotypes, and that type of thing really isnt going to help.

do some black people look like monkeys? Think about it. Do some white people look like pigs? Think about it

it seems like some folks in japan don't get it either!

Here are my posts:

http://blacktokyo.com/?p=148 and http://blacktokyo.com/?p=149

http://www.nwaonline.net/artic.....usfire.txt

Damn, when you're a pessimist, even when you're right, you stay losing.