Perhaps a better question to ask is, will she? I think we all know the answer to that.
It's probably safe to say that the majority of Hillary Clinton voters are not voting for her just because they don't want to vote for a black guy. Now that that disclaimer is out of the way, it's probably also safe to say that there were obviously a few more of those "I'll never vote for a black or a Muslim" voters in Pennsylvania, West Virginia, Indiana and Kentucky. I mean, just check out the exit polls! In Kentucky, 21 percent of Democratic voters said that race was a factor in deciding their vote. Nine out of ten of those people ended up voting for Hillary Clinton. On CNN last night, analysts said that it might behoove Hillary Clinton to say something like, "If you're only voting for me because you don't want to vote for a black man, then I don't want your vote." John Edwards did it not too long ago.
They seemed at least slightly optimistic that she would, at some point in the near future, do exactly this. But where does that optimism come from? She's been clinging to the racist vote and using it (in coded language) as a selling point to superdelegates. It's the one demographic that Barack Obama doesn't have a chance of hell in wooing by November, and she's wearing their support of her like a badge of honor. Some honor. If she didn't play up this race issue post-Pennsylvania and Indiana, then I doubt people would be calling upon her to make any grand proclamations. How must it feel to, in the course of one election, completely destroy a well-respected civil rights record and a relationship with a vast portion of an entire race of Americans? After this is all over, someone should ask.
[JJP]
No candidate gets to tell the public to vote for them "for the right reasons". How about all people who are voting for her because they really want to see a woman in office? Or because they really liked Bill? Or because Rush Limbaugh told them to vote for her?
Has Barack Obama told black voters who are voting for him because he's black to take a hike? I mean, maybe he has and I missed it…
How can she not bring that up? It's actually not a real matter in KY because they aren't even on the radar for possible swing states. Obama's strength is that he can possibly pick up several states in the West (though mainly SW) that Hillary probably wouldn't be able to win come November. Hillary is saying that she can keep and pick up some Eastern states if she's the candidate in November because the middle class white people don't connect with Obama (just like black people don't seem to connect with Hillary). Yeah, it burns but it's a valid point if things stay as is until November. Exit polls to me say little about the prevalence of racism or any other -isms. What it says is that the people of KY are being honest unlike, oh, the people on NH.
RhymesWithSilver,
I think it matters because NOT voting for someone specifically because of their race is, well, racist. There's a whole world of difference between voting for someone because they have characteristics that you like and specifically not voting for someone because of their race. I don't know if I'm articulating this very well because my brain is pretty fried at the moment.
Also:
"In Kentucky, 21 percent of Democratic voters said that race was a factor in deciding their vote."
And that's just the people who admitted it…
I'm not saying that there aren't a lot of racists out there (especially out in the woods). But voting for Hillary because she's a woman is exactly the same as voting for her because she's white- it's something that was totally not her doing and ideally shouldn't earn her any points.
People vote for many reasons that aren't admirable. In 2004 we elected Bush, in my opinion, out of fear. "Vote for me for the right reasons or stay home" is a meaningless statement coming from a politician. I can't see many politicians turning down a vote, however misguided, any more than they can keep the racists away from the polls. We know neither candidate is a racist, no matter how many bigots come out of the woodwork. If a vote from some psycho put me over the top in an election, I'd take it.
Well, it would sound a bit disingenuous if Hillary Clinton now told white people to ignore race & open up their vote to possibly vote for Barack Obama when all along she's been telling them NOT to vote for Barack Obama because she understands white people. Naaa, just stick to the script, Hillary. Don't be switching up now. Don't be confusing Billy Bob annem.
How must it feel to, in the course of one election, completely destroy a well-respected civil rights record and a relationship with a vast portion of an entire race of Americans?
Maybe it is because we only make up 12% Lauren. To be truthful, I am not suprised by her behavior.
RhymesWithSilver don't believe the hype. I doubt if 90% of black voters are voting for Barrack becasue he is black as I doubt 90% are voting for him period.
It would be good, but she has been able to stay in this campaign due to the white racist vote. Make no mistake about it because if a white male was running against her, she would have been out this race along time ago. Racist and sexism is real and still an issue.However, she chose to play the race card like many white people(yet minorities are blamed for it being brought up),so she is not changing anything.
People vote for many reasons that aren’t admirable. In 2004 "we" elected Bush, in my opinion, out of fear
*said in my best clay davis voice*
Shhhiiiiitttttt! not me.
I voted for Kerry because I felt he would get things done.
52% of Americans did.
How is voting for Hillary because she's white any different from voting for Barack because he's black? There are a lot of black Clarence Thomas and Alan Keyes fans out there who will be voting for Barack in November. What the hell kinda sense does that make?
Actually, that's not even a good comparison. How is it different for white Dem voters to support McCain than for black Rep voters to support Obama? I guess one is voting based solely on going against another's race and the other is voting based solely for supporting one's race. If I felt like the war should continue indefinitely and abortion was bad, the Republican candidate would pretty much have to be openly wearing a klan outfit to get me to vote for Obama (or really, against McCain).
I don't think many people pick candidates for the right reasons. Being chill or having a personality is not going to fix this economy but I assure you that those beauty pageant extras are what a lot of people vote based on.
I just wish Hillary Clinton would go away, far far away.
Hold up…is Chic Noir really Lauren? Am I having a Rose moment?
No, Chic Noir is not Lauren.
If she can scream vote for me b/c as am a woman (not in those exact words but it is pretty obvious what she is saying) then she can decry racism. Having said that, don't hold your breath!!
That day will never come when she denounces those bigots. Meanwhile Barack had to throw Rev. Wright and Farrakhan under the bus. Such fairness in this colorblind society.
Look, all of this "women are voting for her because she is a woman" and black people are voting Barack because he has pigment is irrelevant!!
Supporters in these areas said they WOULD NOT vote for Barack if he were the nominee and that "race" was a factor in casting their vote. If memory serves well blacks have been very good at voting for whites in the past and women have been very good at voting for men. The problem here is the intention to not support him at all because of his color. That is a vote that Hillary SHOULD denounce but never will because the fact of the matter is this…she wants to win at all costs whether it be racism or even destroying the Democractic party!
She is not destroying the democratic party. Anyone who is so soft and weak that they feel hurt by all of this should go join the Green Party. The more we talk about destruction of the party - the more people will buy into the idea. Once the nomination is settled ppl will go back to their lives and forget all about this…just like we do for EVERYTHING ELSE that happens in this country -and you all know it. Now, when Barrack loses in November…then it will ALL be Hillary's fault (again). There's no such thing as fairness in politics. Like it or not, ppl are being honest (for once) and Hillary is exploiting that honesty. She didn't put those feeling there, she didn't create the feelings…they already existed. I think she has been too vocal about putting in play those states that Barrack has no chance to win b/c of race. Now, I don't agree with her strategy to broadcast that to the world vs. the delegates (although it would get out anyway).
Surprise…I'm about to say something negative about Hillary: she's been myopic in her endgame strategy and it borders on desperation at times. Like I said, though, elephants may not forget, ppl do. She isn't destroying her record for helping people and civil rights. It's already been recorded…which is why it's called a record. LOL. She'll go back to the Senate and pick up where she left off…helping soldiers get VA benefits, working on causes important to women and children.
Barrack having to denounce Rev. Wright has nothing to do with Hillary…don't lay at her door b/c that's what it sounds like you are doing. Take that up with the media. The same media that gave Barrack a free ride up until that point. The same media that gushed and swooned at his rallies. The same media that is going to turn on him and jump on every story that the GOP throws at him.
I agree with Daria's post btw.
^^LOL@me responding to several ppl w/o noting it. Whatev.