For scholars of race, Barack Obama presents a new American dilemma. On the one hand, his election as president would be a breathtaking symbol of racial progress. On the other, an Obama victory could prove illusory, doing little to dismantle racism while crippling their ability to call attention to it.
Once, I read about a similar problem scholars in the 80s had with the tremendously popular Cosby Show, which depicted a black family headed by wealthy professionals and subsequently gave hoi polloi the impression that the plight of African Americans was a myth. Are you prepared to face more "racism is over" talk from ignorant people in order to have a black president?
Yes…without a doubt!
I might get stones thrown at me but im gonna say it anyway.
Racism exists. (In a lot of cases, people throw that word out were it does not exist) But black people certainly use it as a crutch or an excuse. The Cosby life is attainable to everyone, black people just have to work harder to get it. Its not racism that is holding you back. It is slave mentality that causes one to oppress them self.
Yeah. I'm very prepared for the "Well, Obama made it" backlash. I'll serve ignorant, average-living Whites with a nice list of wealthy White Americans and then ask "So what's your excuse?"
To suggest that racism will die with an Obama presidency is superficial at best.
@ *M*
I guess poverty-stricken Whites are oppressed by their "slave mentality" as well.
Social stratification greatly factors into why ppl struggle. No one wants to be a loser.
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M you are delusional.. please try and watch Black in America.. you will see first hand that the american dream was never created for everyone.
Yes, someone has to be on top and someone on the bottom, but as long as society deems blacks as the bottom it will stay that way.
If not, why would it be a big deal to have a black president? Why is it so hard to believe someone black could run the country?
I have seen black in America. It can be attained. Look a Michael Eric Dyson and his brother. Same family, one is a best selling author. The other is in jail. Why? one chose to commit murder and the other worked hard.
Cord, it's good to have you back, particularly because of the nature of your absence. But it's not good to have you back, because I rarely share your perspective. What does your question even mean: Are black people "prepared to face more 'racism is over' talk"?
Perhaps you should be asking whites if they are "prepared" for the potentiality of the fifth black senator in American history, becoming president? And why not?
Black people have been voting in approximately the same 90% amounts for white presidential candidates, since they've been allowed to vote. Don't put them on the hook for white tomfoolery. Black people didn't start that fire.
They're already saying it now. Lots of whites think America has gotten past race since Obama is running for president.
@M:
I wouldn't say that blacks use racism as "a crutch", as an "excuse"… yes. But even so, the Cosby life isn't attainable to everyone. If that were the case everybody (black, white, asian, hispanic) would be doctors and lawyers. The road to success is different for everyone and some paths are more difficult than others.
Are you prepared to face more "racism is over" talk from ignorant people in order to have a black president?
No but that won't stop me from voting for Obama either. I am voting for the best canidate who is not eager to get WWIII jumping off. Who will encourage the citzens to walk one block to the supermarket instead of wasting gas so we can become less dependant on foreign oil.
racism is over
I know it's going to happen. I just know it. People will use his election to say that racism is over. All his election will prove is that a portion of yt America have come around to being accepting of those who are good blacks or Cosby like blks but the rest of us…
BTW, I am aware and have been exposed to those yt Americans who are truly look past skin color and try to be understanding of those who are different.
No but that won't stop me from voting for Obama either. I am voting for the best canidate who is not eager to get WWIII jumping off.
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@Megs:
Okay? Did you read Cord's entire post?
@m-good points
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@Ike. Yes. I read the whole post.
I don't believe the task is for black people to be "prepared" to suffer the consequences of racism. I'm not aware of any preparation one can undergo for that shyte. You live your life and you try not to do so with preconceived race-based notions about people. And you certainly don't offset the good (Obama's candidacy) with the bad (whites claim we're "post-race") in your own mind, before it happens.
They're already talking it, as you pointed out. Is anyone prepared for the continuum of this ugly? I doubt it. In fact, I refuse to "prepare" for racism. I will, however, prepare for its end. Even though it likely won't.
Racism is over because Obama became President? Call me back when we are going on our 10th Black President, we control a good chuck of the media, and our schools are on par with suburban white schools. As a matter of fact, call me when other people of color wrestle control away from the white power structure. People in power don't like to give it up, so it will be awhile.
White people were saying it before anyone even knew Barack, so I'm well prepared.
C/S 76Classic.
@ *M*
Dr. Dyson brought up his light-skin privilege in that segment. He also brought up how he was encouraged to excel and that his darker skinned brother wasn't given the same level of encouragement.
No one ever acknowledges social constructs. It's always easy to assume that ppl fail cuz they're lazy. That is a very ignorant and superficial conclusion to arrive at.
There is no difference between "poor, ghetto Blacks" and "working-class Whites" other than social capital. The latter group isn't working harder than the former. Those are just divisive labels to prevent class warfare.
While some people do use race as a crutch or excuse, racism continues to pervade this society in a systematic way. I find it highly problematic to blame individuals when there are clearly systems in place that promote failure, lack and limited access in an institutional way.
Yes there are people, lots of people and examples of blacks who have found success despite the many road blocks. And, the sucess of inidividuals within the group contribute to breaking down the systems and providing more access - but I think it's naive to think that everyone can achieve the same level of succss…captialism just doesn't work that way unforunately.
Furthermore on that mental slavery tip, I think mental slavery is what allows a lot of middle, upper class blacks to separate themselves from the plight of lower class blacks. Yea we got Barack Obama making a run for the white house, but we still got the house vs. field n*gger mentality going strong…
Stop being an ass about having a black president. “MY PRESIDENT IS BLACK”
Stop being an ass, about having a black president. “MY PRESIDENT IS BLACK”