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Is a large group of white people voting against Barack Obama only because he's black the same as a large group of black people voting for him because he's black? To be equal opportunity about things, is voting against Hillary Clinton because she's a woman the same as voting for her because she's a woman? Discuss.

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No. 1 · daria from Gorgeous Black Women

voting against Barack Obama because he’s black = voting against Hillary Clinton because she’s a woman

voting for Obama because he's black = voting for Hillary because she's a woman. It doesn't matter who's doing it.

The first is hateful and stupid. The second is just the stupid or otherwise, the lazy person's way to get out of actually ::gasp:: thinking.

Posted: May 27, 2008 at 6:22 pm
No. 2 · Alex Delarge

No it wouldnt be the same thing, because a white group voting against Barack Obama because he is black would be prejudice, but a Group of black individuals voting for Obama because would be verynatural, because the black voters would be able to consciously or unconsciously relate to him because of that large similarity…

It would be no different if an Indian or Asian individual ran for president, he would also get a strong ethnic following because those indian or asian voters relate to him..

That is a large reason why, African Americans have not been interested in politics, its not a good thing, but naturally they dont relate to the all white cast..

Posted: May 27, 2008 at 9:34 pm
No. 3 · spotts

Voting for or against someone based solely on race or sex is ignorant - so those situations are the same.

I understand needing to be able to relate to a candidate - needing to find someone who represents you, but if those are the only things a person can come up with (race and/or sex), then that person shouldn't be voting.

Posted: May 27, 2008 at 11:14 pm
No. 4 · Ike

Hillary and Obama both stand for the same thing basically, so it basically comes down to if you want a "black" president or a "white female" president. Voting against Obama becuz he's "black" (half African) is just racist. The same way voting against Hillary becuz she's a female is just sexist/ignorant.

Posted: May 28, 2008 at 2:27 am
No. 5 · KHIA213

My problem with this issue is that white commentators keep trying to conflate black people voting for Barack as racism because they aren't voting for a white person. What they fail to acknowledge is that black people vote for white politicians ALL the time. They've had to. They can't say that the reverse is necessarily true.

Posted: May 28, 2008 at 9:11 am
No. 6 · megs

I don't understand why Hillary's abysmally run campaign, her racial and gender divisive strategies, her lies, and her unending gaffes might be the reason a person of any race might not want to vote for her.
I no longer see her alleged similarity with Obama. But I do see them with McCain.
And Khia is right. What pejorative are we to be called for the decades we've been voting for whites?

Posted: May 28, 2008 at 1:03 pm
No. 7 · solitaire

Black people who vote for Barack just because he's black, are just as biased as white people who vote against him because of his blackness.

At the end of the day Barack will go down in flames this november, simply because whites are the majority in numbers, and when you add in the latinos he's super fucked.

Posted: May 28, 2008 at 2:43 pm
No. 8 · Ike

I don't see how Black people who vote for Barack just because he’s black, are just as biased as white people who vote against him because of his blackness. Obama would be the first president of color and Hillary would be the first female president.

Posted: May 28, 2008 at 3:19 pm
No. 9 · Afroamericawriter

Voting against Hillary is not about her being a woman; it's about the woman she is.

Posted: May 28, 2008 at 7:10 pm
No. 10 · Daria at Gorgeos Black Women

Not everyone shares your opinion of her. You have to realize that probably 90% of Americans are avoiding all this election crap like the plague and for good reason. For every minute of relevant information, there's probably another 29 of the horse race. I'm paying some attention to the race. The same things some of you loathe about Hillary are the same things I think make her a formidable opponent. Dropping everything else and focusing on ability to win in November, it's not that Obama isn't able to win based on his own merits. Hillary has one thing that very few Dems have and that's the ability to beat Republicans at the very games they created without looking nearly as dirty as they do. If nothing else, you want someone like that on your side because when the McCain campaign, the GOP and all the PACs attack Obama come October (none of that extra-damaging crap ever drops until close enough to election time to limit the damage control), his team will realize that even if the truth is on their side, those undecided voters that make or break elections are very impressionable. While it may not help him to go on the offensive right off the bat, he needs to have every option at his disposal.

Posted: May 29, 2008 at 3:47 pm
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